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On Cars – Toyota 86: More power would ruin it (CNET on Cars, Ep. 104)



Cooley loves the saved Scion, shows you how to clean car windows perfectly and fast, and gives you five good reasons not to buy a new car till late this year.

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  • Mike Jones
    July 17, 2017

    no regrets owning an automatic toyota 86 . such a fun car to drive ! and the price is right for this much fun . i absolutely can not wait to get in it everyday.

  • Rohan Iyer
    July 18, 2017

    A NA 2.5 flat 4 producing around 250 horsepower would be perfect.

  • mrpmj00
    July 19, 2017

    slow as molasses and the bicycle tires scream to stop pushing them.

  • FasterThanU
    July 29, 2017

    He says in the beginning in the video that the miata has a better power to weight ratio… 15.0 lb/hp for the miata and 13.5 lb/hp for the FRS….uhhh WRONG. That means its better for the FRS! Lets say the FRS went from 205 hp to 300…you'd get: 2774/300 = 9.25 lb/hp. The lower the number the better the power to weight! Now if you were calculating hp/lb (vs lb/hp) then thats a different story calculation!

  • turbo311
    July 30, 2017

    One of the best and most honest reviews of this car that's yet been done. Kudos!

  • Cagedand Enraged
    September 29, 2017

    won't lie I think this car would be great with a smaller, turbocharged engine. Cut weight down but increase torque a bit kinda thing

  • Standing@TheTerminus
    October 8, 2017

    As an owner of a 2013 FR-S, I can easily say, yes this car does need more power. People seem to forget that the 200~205 hp isn't to the wheels, so it's really about 185-ish. If this car actually got 200~225 hp to the wheels, it would be a huge difference, along with a better gear radio and ditch the 210s for 225 tires and you'd probably have the best driving sub $30k car on the road without having to mod a damn thing.

  • Mike Hunt
    November 9, 2017

    The only issue I see is the way that the torque curve actually drops between 3k and 4k rpm. The car actually seems too slow down when you first put your foot down. It's a fuck ton of fun once you get above 4k though.

  • Whyunounderstand
    November 10, 2017

    What a dumbass more power would ruin it lol this cars needs at least 250whp i have one its a slug in stockform, a boxer makes a horrible NA engine

  • Seppo Taalasmaa
    December 1, 2017

    More than 50,000,00€ in finland for this…
    So no one buys it. No one wants to buy cars in finland because fookin hi taxes…

  • Billy Bob
    December 21, 2017

    If everyone drove a manual we'd be a lot less distracted

  • Patrick De Freitas
    January 3, 2018

    I am 5 '10 and i sat in the back of an frs…. the person in the passenger seat infront of me was taller than me, at least 6'2. it deff is possible, hate it when people make it seem like it literally is impossible. It just isn't very comfortable compared to a normal car obviously but if you HAD to take a 3rd or 4th person it deff is possible… especially for girls who are normally shorter than 5'10 etc.

  • Jon Elmer
    January 24, 2018

    you never get better gas mpg if you can drive

  • Dj Project
    April 15, 2018

    Nice cars. Can’t wait for them to depreciate so I could afford one!!! LOL!!!

  • Brian H.
    July 12, 2018

    Flat four * not flat six – for the Subaru STI

  • WinterCraft
    July 19, 2018

    I believe the 86 was built the way it is so people could modify it to their view, put their own turbo or body kit, or a break kit… just like the supra, so many mod options.

  • Raftika
    August 5, 2018

    Does he have reviews on the mustangs and camaros?

  • Gary Widom
    September 12, 2018

    I’m guessing you’re sponsored by Rain-X? Over time it leaves a nasty film on glass that is nearly impossible to remove. I used over 20 years ago on one of my cars & never used it again.

  • Raymond Lee
    October 22, 2018

    That's why autonomous driving save lives!!!

  • Ravens champs
    February 10, 2019

    At least 240hp would of been good

  • Tomasz Kiraga
    June 1, 2019

    04:49 so what kind of jihadist are you? :^)

  • SCU Later
    June 6, 2019

    No need to watch the video lol.

    It's needs 40 more HP and about 80 more torque. Just ask Savage Geese who drove a supercharged one with I think 230hp.

  • Gaston Maqueda
    June 26, 2019

    Absolutely RIGHT

    The majority of people don't understand this car.

    The car doesn't needs more power. Only need drivers who understand the concept of the model.

  • SoLuna
    July 13, 2019

    You can never have too much power! What a grandma..

  • 19hundo c
    August 12, 2019

    I owned one. When you get beat by a 2006 Civic Si that is stock in your 28K "sports car" from a dig, roll, and everything in between, that's frustrating. THATS why it needs more power. And they are rolling out versions that cost 33K, that's crazy.

  • Burako Shimazaki
    November 4, 2019

    It didn't become the 86. It was always the 86, it was just badged and named to appeal to Scion's demographics in the USA. Secondly, the seats are usable if you're not a giant. Leg room can be cramped if the driver is long legged.

  • Kitt Douglas
    November 13, 2019

    The FRS didn't become the gt86. Subaru and toyota developed the car together an scion was just created for americans. The gt86 didnt just appear because the FRS left.

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